Monday, October 31, 2011

When a group leader takes things too far

And behaves badly. The group's name is in this rant.

From my friend's page:
I support OWS, I really do. However, please understand that all of these "uniformed servicemember stands up to police" images aren't truthful. An active duty servicemember is forbidden from protesting or participating in any government type activity like that while in uniform. Hell, I think it's actually even against the rules for them to vote while in uniform. Uniformed servicemembers are to show no political bias.

And here is what we went through:

Me: The uniformed service members you see are veterans and no longer are active status.

Friend: A lot of them, but there is one of a young looking man in a dress navy uniform with no rank insignia, no ribbons..I get a feeling he never was active duty...they are being put out as though some of these guys are active saying "veteran supports OWS in uniform" that's different...

Me: I have no idea who is saying they are active, but every report I've seen is that they are all vets.
 Me: In fact the young man in Oakland was a Iraq Vet.

This is the story we were talking about:
An AMAZING scene of One Man who swore an OATH to his country to fight to protect...

Me: If he were still active, he wouldn't want to show patches or ribbons. If he were still active, his picture alone would get him court martialed and thrown in a brig for many years and kicked off active duty status.

My Friend:that's true...but man..those uniforms are farking expensive to use in such a way....I just get fed up with people trying to be something they aren't and I'm kind of a cynic...I've seen too many times somebody pretending to be something so they get more attention, ya know?

Me: Yeah, I know. I've met plenty of wannabes too and get just as steamed when I know the person is in the wrong for acting like they are something they are not.

We survived Bush. You will survive Obama. 

My friend: did you seriously block me from the page for pointing out that active duty military members are not permitted to protest in uniform? I have support
ed your page for ages now, I have shared your information and am a HUGE supporter of OWS...I simply dislike when things are put forth in a less than truthful manner..saying that these brave soldiers are doing all this, when this guy is not showing any rank insignia, anything to show he even ever served in the Navy..anyone can get themselves a uniform and put it on...

If you did not block me and it is a fb glitch, I apologize, but if you did I am deeply saddened. I thought your page was more about being truthful and honest about what is going on in the world and with our government, not spreading propaganda and emotional blackmail type images.

Him: The problem is you did not say in either of your posts that "active duty military members are not permitted to protest in uniform." What you did was call me a liar. If you've been a fan of my world renowned, award winning page with over a million views EVERY DAY then you'd understand why I have zero tolerance for slanderous comments on my forum. For what it is worth several people in the comments section said you over reacted in your comments, but I had banned you before that happened.

This is my house, not yours, and if you are not respectful you will not be allowed to participate. You do not get to be terse with me, I could care less. Do you understand that I do not work for you and do not care what you like or do not like? Have you ever put a penny in my pocket? And yet you have the nerve to tell me what I should or should not be doing? I have a great idea. Go start your own page that receives millions of hits and pass out your loving commentary for the world to read.

With such a charming personality I am sure you will go far in such an endeavor. Do not bother to respond, anything you send will be immediately discarded.

Dr. Lou Colagiovanni

Me:I never called YOU a liar. I stated that the information in the video was untruthful. Granted, I didn't say it specifically, I did not expect that you would take it personally, I figured you would recognize that I was responding to the video stating that it was a navy person, when there is no evidence supporting that besides a partial dress uniform.

After this discourse, you will no longer have my support and I will encourage my friends to avoid your page as well. You can throw your statistics at me all you want, that makes you no better than the others who sit on their high horses and try to speak down to the regular person who is a victim of the big names and pompous attitudes. Shame on you.

My Friend: And now he has become a liar saying I went begging to be allowed back on the page, I did NOT...could somebody please go on there (who isn't afraid of being blocked LOL) and inform the rest of his page? Even if he had unblocked me, I would not have returned.

Another post he made: 
I laugh at these people who leave rude messages on our wall, which gets them banned, and then are completely shocked in their e-mail they send begging to be unbanned. Here's an idea! Be civil the first time and I won't have to waste my time reading your message and responding with a big fat NO!

If there is one thing I dislike above all else it is rude people.

And yet there he is being rude to a woman who is a military wife and a friend of many veterans, including me; so I wen t to that site and said this:
Wow dude, you blocked and then called someone a liar for questioning the sailor? And then you lie and say the person begged to come news for ya. She wouldn't come back if you unblocked her and she's not the kind of person to beg when she is treated unfairly.

He was so rude in fact that he cut out all the comments My Friend had made from the original posting of the story where the sailor was standing in the video.

And so he just had to have a last word, but didn't get it.

Him: I really just don't care for you attitude or sense of entitlement. I owe you nothing and I could care less what you or any of your friends do or say about me. Do you have any comprehension as to the amount of resistance and attack I deal with from the right on a daily basis? Please forgive me while I shiver in my boots at the thought of losing YOUR support. Whatever will we do without you?

My Friend: You have attacked me, you have insinuated that I am a troll...after I have supported your page for a long time now. Now you are outright LYING about me. I have no sense of entitlement, I don't know where you are getting that. I haven't asked you for a single thing, and if you believe I have, please quote me and let me know because I can break it down for you as you seem to be a little too full of yourself to understand clear English.

I didn't attack YOU, or your page..yet you are so full of yourself that you believe that any statement is directly pointed at you. I pity you.

And so from here on out, if you don't see the We survived Bush. You will survive Obama site on my page; you know why. I will be unliking them soon.