When a group leader takes things too far

And behaves badly. The group's name is in this rant.

From my friend's page:

I support OWS, I really do. However, please understand that all of these "uniformed servicemember stands up to police" images aren't truthful. An active duty servicemember is forbidden from protesting or participating in any government type activity like that while in uniform. Hell, I think it's actually even against the rules for them to vote while in uniform. Uniformed servicemembers are to show no political bias.

And here is what we went through:

Me: The uniformed service members you see are veterans and no longer are active status.

Friend: A lot of them, but there is one of a young looking man in a dress navy uniform with no rank insignia, no ribbons..I get a feeling he never was active duty...they are being put out as though some of these guys are active duty..now saying "veteran supports OWS in uniform" that's different...

Me: I have no idea who is saying they are active, but every report I've seen is that they are all vets.

 Me: In fact the young man in Oakland was a Iraq Vet.

This is the story we were talking about:

OccupyOakland protests - Navyman stands in tear gas.filled Police Firestorm

www.youtube.com

An AMAZING scene of One Man who swore an OATH to his country to fight to protect...

Me: If he were still active, he wouldn't want to show patches or ribbons. If he were still active, his picture alone would get him court martialed and thrown in a brig for many years and kicked off active duty status.

My Friend:that's true...but man..those uniforms are farking expensive to use in such a way....I just get fed up with people trying to be something they aren't and I'm kind of a cynic...I've seen too many times somebody pretending to be something so they get more attention, ya know?

Me: Yeah, I know. I've met plenty of wannabes too and get just as steamed when I know the person is in the wrong for acting like they are something they are not.

We survived Bush. You will survive Obama. 

My friend: did you seriously block me from the page for pointing out that active duty military members are not permitted to protest in uniform? I have supported your page for ages now, I have shared your information and am a HUGE supporter of OWS...I simply dislike when things are put forth in a less than truthful manner..saying that these brave soldiers are doing all this, when this guy is not showing any rank insignia, anything to show he even ever served in the Navy..anyone can get themselves a uniform and put it on...

If you did not block me and it is a fb glitch, I apologize, but if you did I am deeply saddened. I thought your page was more about being truthful and honest about what is going on in the world and with our government, not spreading propaganda and emotional blackmail type images.

Him: The problem is you did not say in either of your posts that "active duty military members are not permitted to protest in uniform." What you did was call me a liar. If you've been a fan of my world renowned, award winning page with over a million views EVERY DAY then you'd understand why I have zero tolerance for slanderous comments on my forum. For what it is worth several people in the comments section said you over reacted in your comments, but I had banned you before that happened.

This is my house, not yours, and if you are not respectful you will not be allowed to participate. You do not get to be terse with me, I could care less. Do you understand that I do not work for you and do not care what you like or do not like? Have you ever put a penny in my pocket? And yet you have the nerve to tell me what I should or should not be doing? I have a great idea. Go start your own page that receives millions of hits and pass out your loving commentary for the world to read.

With such a charming personality I am sure you will go far in such an endeavor. Do not bother to respond, anything you send will be immediately discarded.

Dr. Lou Colagiovanni

Me:I never called YOU a liar. I stated that the information in the video was untruthful. Granted, I didn't say it specifically, I did not expect that you would take it personally, I figured you would recognize that I was responding to the video stating that it was a navy person, when there is no evidence supporting that besides a partial dress uniform.

After this discourse, you will no longer have my support and I will encourage my friends to avoid your page as well. You can throw your statistics at me all you want, that makes you no better than the others who sit on their high horses and try to speak down to the regular person who is a victim of the big names and pompous attitudes. Shame on you.

My Friend: And now he has become a liar saying I went begging to be allowed back on the page, I did NOT...could somebody please go on there (who isn't afraid of being blocked LOL) and inform the rest of his page? Even if he had unblocked me, I would not have returned.

Another post he made: 

I laugh at these people who leave rude messages on our wall, which gets them banned, and then are completely shocked in their e-mail they send begging to be unbanned. Here's an idea! Be civil the first time and I won't have to waste my time reading your message and responding with a big fat NO!

If there is one thing I dislike above all else it is rude people.

And yet there he is being rude to a woman who is a military wife and a friend of many veterans, including me; so I wen t to that site and said this:

Wow dude, you blocked and then called someone a liar for questioning the sailor? And then you lie and say the person begged to come back...well...got news for ya. She wouldn't come back if you unblocked her and she's not the kind of person to beg when she is treated unfairly.

He was so rude in fact that he cut out all the comments My Friend had made from the original posting of the story where the sailor was standing in the video.

And so he just had to have a last word, but didn't get it.

Him: I really just don't care for you attitude or sense of entitlement. I owe you nothing and I could care less what you or any of your friends do or say about me. Do you have any comprehension as to the amount of resistance and attack I deal with from the right on a daily basis? Please forgive me while I shiver in my boots at the thought of losing YOUR support. Whatever will we do without you?

My Friend: You have attacked me, you have insinuated that I am a troll...after I have supported your page for a long time now. Now you are outright LYING about me. I have no sense of entitlement, I don't know where you are getting that. I haven't asked you for a single thing, and if you believe I have, please quote me and let me know because I can break it down for you as you seem to be a little too full of yourself to understand clear English.

I didn't attack YOU, or your page..yet you are so full of yourself that you believe that any statement is directly pointed at you. I pity you.

And so from here on out, if you don't see the We survived Bush. You will survive Obama site on my page; you know why. I will be unliking them soon.

Pompeo presents

Pompeo presents “two visions” to Aero Club | Wichita Business Journal

Wichita Business Journal - by Daniel McCoy Reporter

Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 3:00pm CDT - Last Modified: Monday, May 9, 2011, 3:02pm CDT

Email: dhmccoy@bizjournals.com

Kansas’ Fourth District Congressman Mike Pompeo told the Wichita Aero Club on Monday that he sees two distinct visions for America’s future.

One vision holds that any problem, no matter the size, can be solved if government gets more involved and passes more laws to regulate it.

The other vision holds that government should get out of the way whenever it can.

Pompeo, who falls among those who hold the second outlook, told the crowd of local aviation leaders that they likely wouldn’t change the mind of those in favor of growing government.

To limit the regulations and taxes many in the industry say hamper their business, change will have to come from the polling places during coming elections, Pompeo said.

“We have to win,” he said.

Pompeo, who was the guest speaker Monday at the Aero Club’s May luncheon, also talked about — and was asked about by the audience — the national deficit.

It’s a bill that eventually comes due, he said, calling a deficit nothing more than a debt deferral. However, if the country shows a clear plan for repayment, he believes the debt market will react favorably and the dollar will strengthen.

But the deficit also means the government has to tighten its purse strings.

“We will simply have to do less,” Pompeo said. “And this is not a partisan issue. This is an American issue of epic proportions.”

Pompeo also spoke about the recent complaint against The Boeing Co. by the National Labor Relations Board, expressing his belief that Boeing did nothing wrong in choosing a nonunion site in South Carolina for a second 787 Dreamliner assembly center.

As for the mood toward general aviation on Capitol Hill, Pompeo — who has been in office a little more than four months now — said there is strong support for the industry in the House of Representatives.

What he has yet to see or hear, he says, is President Obama come out clearly in favor of the industry.

He called recent visits by federal officials like Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood a great step. He just hopes the man at the top hears the message about the economic benefits of general aviation.

Better still, Pompeo said, is if he sees it for himself.

“I hope the president will come to understand what a wonderful resource Kansas aviation is,” Pompeo said. “I’d love to have the president come out and have him meet the folks here. I want him to come see these people who are doing such great work.”

Except if they win the population looses. What they are talking about taking away from the government is what protects us as citizens of this state and this country. They want the major corporations to rule over the people as if we were slaves, just to keep the money from them, (ie the Koch brothers et al...) in their pockets, they really don't care about the small business men and women, they really don't care about the poor, they really don't care about anyone but themselves. And unfortunately for the Republican Populace, the ones they elected don't care about them either; save to use their votes to keep large corporate money flowing into their pockets.

In the four months that Pompeo has been in office, he has voted for things like this, http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hr112-5&tab=summary and yet hasn't followed it; for example, I haven't seen any citation of where in the constitution it says we should give big corporations tax cuts. It was in the beginning of this country that a corporation would only last as long as a job needed to be done. Yet now corporations are being allowed to spend billions to get the folks they can keep in their pockets into office.

Also in the four months that he has been in office, he voted for this http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hr112-26&tab=summary and this takes away the health care bill that Obama pushed so hard to get. While I'm not totally fond of the health care bill, its much better than what we had and I look forward to a day that I can afford to get good health care.

Why did he vote for this?  http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-836&tab=summary , where does it benefit his constituents? What does he have against N.P.R.? http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hr112-174&tab=summary  And he's all for keeping us at war, what does he stand to gain from that? http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hc112-28&tab=summary . How about reducing regulatory burdens? Does this bill do what I think it does and allows more dumping of chemicals, pesticides etc... into our already polluted water? The same water we are supposed to drink? http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-872

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-1214 What does this bill mean for the children of this country? The summary tells the story better. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1214&tab=summary

These are just examples of how he votes, his whole record to date is here:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes.xpd?year=2011&person=412431

Quite honestly, I dread the reality that he and other Republican leaders are trying to make in and of this country. I don't know that our nation will ever be great again with leaders like Boehner, Scott, Brownback and Pompeo.

A rant from a friend

If the New Right wins.. Your type won't have to worry about leaving a huge debt for their grandchildren that so worries you today. Your grandchildren will be too busy having rotten teeth because their will be no fluoride in the water. Your grandchildren will once again have polio and small pox because your side has been convinced these shots are not needed, your grandchildren will not have to worry about an education because their will be no child labor laws anymore, they won't need school because they will once again be used as slave labor with no bargaining rights Workers will once again work in unsafe conditions and for piss wages because there will be no unions and nobody to represent them-and with little money to survive on let alone break out of their conditions. The country will once again have unsafe water, air and soil and die from influenza and plague as they once did because all these programs will be cut, and are being cut as we speak, for the sake of the almighty dollar! There will be no social welfare programs nor mental health programs available so the streets will turn into slums and diseased ridden holes with bodies once again littering the streets because the corrupt health insurers won't pay for medical help. Our bridges, roads will be in ruins because nobody wants to pay taxes for the upkeep. There will be more crime than the remaining police can handle because your kind doesn't want to pay their salaries. Buildings and homes will burn because there is not enough firemen. Instead of your grandchildren thanking you for not leaving them with a huge debt, they will hate your guts and understand just what kind of money loving, hateful, racist beasts forced them into their pitiful existence all because of their twisted love of money and racial hatred. Will we allow this to happen? Hell no we won't! We took your kind out in the Civil War. We took your kind out in WW1 and WW2...and we will take you out again. Get ready. We are coming. We will not let you succeed simply because your side is totally wrong. And the problem in Wisconsin has just begun, not ended. Screw the John Birchers and the New Right...will will kick you asses to the curb, so bring it fools. "Beware the rage of the righteous, even Satan runs." Start running Birchers!!!! We are done with you, you stupid ignorant, racist Koch sucking morons.